We will be ordering and shipping magazines as long as we are allowed. ($33), Even though this article is about featurelessI know you want to know about the best new bullet buttons.. To be clear I can build the rifle as featureless (no pistol or forward grip, fixed stock, no flash suppressor (muzzle breaks are ok) and I can leave my regular (non bullet button mag release in place and have all the advantages of ambi controls? I don't think I've seen anyone offer any kind of fixed magazine option for 9mm lowers, personally, my AR-9 is featureless. I assume you mean a rifle built on an 80% lower? I believe it has to never been made into something with the "evil" features. Don't lose confidence in your carry handgun by using sub par components. All critical machining done in single work holding for exacting tolerances and manufacturing consistency from batch to batch. At the end of the day, do they pat themselves on the back and really believe they are helping? It's no use, just dump um, save money, and move forward. doug. Not looking for legal advice, just an opinion. I'm leaving the state when I retire in a few years. i) Silencerco Osprey It should not be a feature unless it's one of those that is marketed as a grip too. But don't worry, there's also 10-rounder divisions so you aren't at a terrible disadvantage. Separately, if you use Oprah as a punching bag people are going to think you, like lots of gun enthusiasts, are racist, even if you're not. But, if I register my rifles as AW what type of mag release will I be able to have? There are better options out there now and it looks like its no longer made anyways! Look up Palmetto State Armory online. The new kind of bullet buttons will be your best bet. it meets all the requirements for featureless requirements but more ergonomically comfortable. You can't reason with them; just play by the rules so you yourself don't end up ruining your life because you didn't follow their arbitrary guidelines on what a rifle can look like. So regular bullet button with evil features or featureless. ). Hi Jack, AFAIK it will be illegal to buy or sell AW after 1/1/2017 and you have until 1/1/2018 to register or make featureless/fixed mag (that requires opening up the action instead of the regular bullet button). The biggest aesthetic and functional change youll do in your quest to go featureless. Next they will go after people that register their 'Assault Weapons'. Hmm, thanks for bringing that to my attention. This is some serious ridiculousness. No doubt, thousands of California AR-15 owners will be modifying to a fixed mag configuration in order to avoid registration and the inevitable confiscation that will follow. You're going to continue to keep getting screwed over because you don't take the time to do the research for the correct political candidate. IMO and per another YT'br the featureless route keeps it functioning as designed minus some ergo bs, and you can still use your legal mags. Icarus Precision states We are excited to offer our first custom slide for the P365 and P365XL. You may choose an FFL Dealer from our preferred listing or you may find a dealer in your area. You'll still have to comply with previous rules AFAIK. Deep aggressive serrations cover the contact points Making all types of slide manipulation direct and effortless. Many internet people say you can blind pin and epoxy your current collapsible stock so that it can no longer move, but again, I like to err on the safe side with a fixed stock. Hi Josh, it's true but there's so many effective brakes out there for reasonable prices. Any help would be appreciated! Shotgun All Inclusive Packages and Rifles, Glock work, Shotgun work, Sig Sauer work, Stippling. Perhaps someone will design a quick release mag floor plate? So what I'm hearing here, is in CA if you use the patriot button which forces you to open the action to remove the magazine, the rest of the AR doesn't have to be featureless? None. Again, Im not a lawyer and this is not legal advice. Hey Matthew, I'll be updating soon, but got my hands on the J-Comp 2 and VG6. Specifically banned by make and model. Thanks! Hey KM, not lawyer but if you remove all the "evil" features I listed in the article you are should not be required to register it as an AW and can currently take the BB off. But I might be wrong on the second part. 60% lighter than most market competitive suppressor mounts. John Wick, The Terminal List, Fate of the Furious Watch celebrities and sharp shooters run the range, CCW, Optics, Belt Gear, Springs, Lasers and more, Get the latest updates on new products and upcoming sales, Ask The Automotive Experts anything on Spark-Demo. And slip on your regular stock until it clicks in that hole. These barrels are then given a black Nitride or PVD coating to increase lubricity, barrel life, and resistance to surface wear. The Micro Carry Comp ( MC) provides a low signature (resists printing while carrying concealed), fits a wide range of holsters without modification, and provides noticeable recoil reduction for faster more accurate follow up shots with enhanced overall control of the firearm. Ready to go Firearms, Handgun All Inclusive Packages. Weve got a dedicated section for the AR-15 here. What brand/model are the muzzle brake/compensator that you are currently using in your competition guns? One of my top recommendations. Federal law requires firearms to be shipped to FFL Dealers. The newest thing out is the Stock Stop from Strike. Some Muzzle Brakes Chilling. As of now will this cover me until the end of the year or should I remove the pistol grip and collapsible stock? Remember, the FFL Dealer is doing you a favor and the process takes time to complete. so as long as you install a patriot mag release you are good and can do whatever you want without registering? See even more Featureless Grips for the AR & AK in our full roundup. In actual use, it's locked in fairly tight and doesn't have much wiggle room if you trim the stop right. I can then, since its not a AW, remove my BB and go with a conventional mag release? Drops right in no issues and looks amazing. Weve built dozens of ARs and well cover all the best AR-15 upgrades such as handguards, triggers, BCGs, gas blocks, and more. I downloaded the PDF and it looks like a list of states and a little blurb. Really sad to see what this once a great state is turning into You're welcome Andre! any affiliation with or endorsement by them. Best I've read. will not accept a return or exchange under any circumstance. If I would for having the two pieces in the same house I just sell my barrel to my neighbor who doesn't have any ar's. Was it to try and stop the LAPD from shooting so many people at once? I'd look at the description of the device and/or double-check with the manufacturer/seller. Select Gun : P365 Subcompact 9mm (12rd) P365 Subcompact 9mm (15rd) Quantity discounts I am new to the AR game in CA. There are a lot of muzzle devices, and the big difference is that flash suppressors have a bigger cavity at the exit end than the bullet caliber when compared to muzzle breaks or compensators. It will depend on your FFLsome are more risk adverse than others since there's some interpretation of the featureless laws. WebWe currently offer Sig Sauer P365 XL magazine upgrades, such as magazine base plates for 12 round magazines, and we have plans to expand our selection of aftermarket P365 Magpul AFG: Probably not a forward pistol grip since its more angeledbut why risk it. I went with a kydex wrap for mine. I would like the DOJ to tell us which of the products will help to qualify our rifles as "featureless", then I can hold my nose and select a replacement for the evil pistol grip. Id leave the state or live with being a felon. See it in action for side blast, decibel reading, and reticle movement. I escaped to Ohio for 7 years. A featureless rifle (in California) is one that does not have any of the following: A featureless rifle allows the use of detachable magazines and lawfully owned standard-capacitymagazines. Those are the most ridiculous Law's I've ever heard of!! Will featureless be banned ? I was not aware that states are requiring all this B.S. The device is finished in type 2 Tiodize, a dull grey, durable, anti-galling finish. buy two and it makes swapping out much quicker while still staying legal. I am Ex Military & Law Enforcement, and can't imagine having to shoot with a rifle like that!! (C) Thanks David!! Took me long enough lol! GLOCK is a federally registered trademark of Glock, Inc. and is one of many trademarks owned by Glock, Inc. or Glock Ges.m.b.H. San Antonio here we come. If there was something the rest of us could do to stop this stuff from happening we would do it. Joe. 3.) What the mag lock does is make it so that the rifle doesn't have a detachable magazine. Anyway, I will install an ARMaglock and wait until I have some experience with a jam before I make the installation permanent with red thread-lock and drilled out hex head. It's a mess. Even though the barrel length is already 16inches and the over all length of the rifle is over the 30inch mark. AR's from back then arent required to make any of these changes right? Now the primary bonus of making a featureless rifle is that you do not have to register it as an assault weapon. Learn more at. Thanks. I'll update the article soon but I'm really liking my new VG6 Gamma, J-Comp 2, and Miculek brake clone. You'll now receive newsletters of our best articles on techniques, This article is incorrect. For an individual to receive a firearm from Cheaper Than Dirt! TC. Why in the world would the people of California want these laws????? With their superior quality, precision machining, innovative design, and lifetime guarantee, Faxon's Muzzle Devices are an excellent investment for any serious shooter. Great article by the way, short, to the point, has nice visuals, and gives a good list of options and alternatives. Looks like the LA area? Tight group at 10 yards and no issues with or without suppressor. Actual buyer must pickup from FFL dealer who will conduct the background check. Ya, I'm in California so that's some good news to hear! Hi Eric, thanks for all the great info. Our wide selection of muzzle devices includes brakes, The video makes it look a lot worse than it really is. I'm having issues withave making a San Tan Tactical lower CA compliant since it has ambi bolt and mag releases. Firearms are only available for purchase online. I've actually been doing a lot of research and ended up figuring it out. Just finished converting mine to featureless. Ive watched a bunch of vids and looked at the different products for a while. why would it be bad to have my ar broken down into parts? This monstrosity below is an example of a thumbhole stock where the thumb of the trigger hand can go through the stock when firing. Opposable Grip is much easier than other methods Preview. If i go featureless does it become a ghost gun, or is it registered as a long rifle? Would i still have to make it featureless or register it? Kinda dumb laws. This is also quite handy in New Zealand where we have a "sporting rifle" which can be owned on a basic firearms license, and a "military style semi-automatic" which like the "assault weapon" is basically a set of cosmetic features, pistol grip, collapsible/folding stock, bayonet lugs, flash suppressor. Eric, Thanks. Sig Sauer P365 Extractor Spring Insert, 2700150-R $8.99. This would be my first build. The big reason was hidden above in Section Athe ability to not have a bullet button and use your magazine release as it was intended. California 1978 model colt ar15 sp1 question. Quickly learn what makes a rifle "featureless," how to build a featureless AR-15, the benefits, and top mods for grips, stocks, and muzzle devices. Large opening - bad, restricted opening - OK. Bullet-button rifles have a maximum of 10-round magazines. .22lr rifles are rim fire and therefore exempt. Are any of the featureless parts available actually CA DOJ approved or are we all potentially the first case brought to trial? Taper ensures solid lock up and minimal/repeatable POI shift. Limited supplies 6 Questions \ 6 Answers Availability: Only 6 Left In Stock Price $319.99 Qty Details Reviews Details Does that mean that we can still use our pre-ban AR15 up to the deadline date of 12/31/16? And for the grip, throw a wrap on it and you're good to go. WebP365XL STANDARD GRIP MODULE ASSEMBLY - COYOTE $69.99 Add to Cart SPEC1 - 4 OZ PREMIUM BLEND, SYNTHETIC FIREARM LUBRICANT $18.99 Add to Cart We should not have to get the permission of any government to exercise our constitutional rights. If you do go maglock there are some decent options to help with reloading such as Bear Flag Defense BF-10. The whole thing is political and does not impact public safety at all. The Sig factory X Macro f%@k for many years now to the point I've made all my guns featureless using the Thordsen FPS-15 stock on the lowers and a CMMG muzzle brake for all my uppers. Sorry, I'm Old School. What did I do to skirt the law? I have looked at pictures of a number of various products including "hammerhead", shark fin, the spur, the Patrick Henry trigger guard, (and a combination of spur and PH trigger guard) and the Ledesma Arms "rifle grip". The featureless grip looks retarded. Strip the lower and take it out of the equation. In an attempt to keep the barrel length as short as possible, its between a thread protector or the S&J micro linier comp. Even letters to our representatives won't work because all politicians are cut from the same bolt of cloth. 4.) Find a FFL Dealer. how the featureless works for this? it drops in from the top, making the rifle with a "fixed" magazine. Striker Fired Semi Auto Micro Compact Pistol, 3.1" Carbon Steel Barrel with Titanium Nitride Gold Finish, Stainless Steel Optic Ready Slide with Integrated Compensator, X Series Flat Trigger with Titanium Nitride Finish. And since CA is committing so many acts of rebellion, it will be a no-brainer. Any updates on whether the J-Comp v2 is considered CA compliant? Hi Mars, it currently is and should be, but I would always ask someone that can give you a concrete answer. Call the FFL Dealer and set an appointment to confirm that the firearm is ready to be transferred. A device attached to the front muzzle that reduces the flash from shooting. AR pistols must follow the new laws PLUS not have a threaded barrel nor handguards. Thank you very much for the speedy response, I appreciate it! Flash suppressors usually come in two flavorsbirdcage and multi-prong. To achieve this, you have to open the upper receiver, load the magazine from the top, then close the gun back up. The photo you show for the Miculek shows top vents.. Speaking as someone living in Australia (Queensland, specifically) and who will most likely never use an AR-15, let alone own one, I don't see how this will help anyone or do anything beneficial for California. It's common for people here to pin & weld muzzle devices on 14.5 inch barrels in order to meet the 16-inch barrel requirement. That would shine the bright light of reality on the lies perpetrated by those who want power, absolute and unchallenged. Lastly, is shooterbowl Sunday still going down and will you bring your AR despite the potential hassle? Once installed the stock can only lock into 1 location, BUT you can still give your detent lever a squeeze and push your stock forward around a quarter inch. The FFL Dealer will begin processing the shipment. I would imagine a thread protector would be a way cut down on the cost of going featureless. Hi Todd, I'm not familiar with that lower. (3) Currently most people believe that going featureless will exempt you from the new AW registration laws in California. The Stock Lok is something new that has come out that swaps out the spring-loaded adjustment pin for something fixed. WebP365/P365XL Factory Extended Magazine. So if I make all necessary changes, can i remove the bullet button to a regular magazine release? Griffin Armament is an independent manufacturer of parts and accessories that fit SIG SAUER pistols; however it is not affiliated with or endorsed by SIG SAUER, Inc. It would be akin to the state telling you that you had to now drive your car with 1/2 a steering wheel, 5 gallons of gas and no muffler or tail pipe. The only flash hider that is restricted is one that has that as it's only function. Hi John, thanks for the insight. I did read some where that it depends on how high said thumb rides in reference to the trigger. Quick question is a bipod considered a "feature"? Where did you get the photo with the top vents? A $16.95 handling fee will be charged per order. World renowned and the choice for many of the premier global military, law enforcement and commercial Can't we just make the stock non-adjustable without damaging the buffet tube? I also found this video from Chris X on YouTube: WebICARUS PRECISION P365X LIMITED EDITION GRIP MODULE - ANNO BLACK Enjoy enhanced comfort and better control with this limited edition Icarus Precision P365X ELITE Aluminum Grip Module. All products and company names are trademarks or registered Dont I insinuate that opera is round like a punching bag fat shaming is just as bad these days. lol. It might look odd/ugly, but Ive found that I quickly adapted to the different grip. but for now, ill have to suffer. These Competition Series modules feature our popular Razorback mod, as well as enlargement of the grip heel/base. Thanks in advance! This enables shooters to enjoy the normal ergonomics of the AR-15 rifle. will soon be arriving for you. The author of the original article is *way* overdue for an update on this topic. Trouble that could make it very difficult or impossible to own guns at all if it goes against you. We'll send you the latest guides and training tips geared Thank you for the writeup. The laws suck but I follow them so I can actually shoot them at ranges/comps/etc. Do you have any recommendations on what to buy/pair for this lower to get started on the build? Does anyone know of a California compliant magazine release for the Spike Glock 9mm lower? Most folks have been getting others due to the typical price gouging that comes with a product with limited numbers like lowers made before Sept. 1994. WebNational and World Championship proven technique for most shooters. But I also heard that just adding a grip wrap to a standard AK will make it compliant. Create your account and enjoy a new shopping experience. On the easier side to fixjust dont have one and pick up a thread protector. Ships Within 1 to 3 Business Days After Valid FFL is Received. guns & An AR-15 with the Thordsen stock, a silencer fitting instead of a flash suppressor (silencers are considered good manners here) and a magazine of no more than seven rounds is a sporting rifle, and doesn't require the extra cost endorsement. California is madness in action. Problem solved. As far as I know, there's no rule to force you to take off the bullet button if you go featureless. A semiautomatic, centerfire rifle that has the capacity to accept a detachable magazine and any one of the following: Personalize your experience. That part is up to you to decide. So if I read this right, and follow the chart accordingly, I can go totally featureless (which I have already) which then removes my AR from AW status. You cannot move the stock forward or backward without disassembling it and removing at least half of the Stock Stop. Free shipping for all orders over $39.99 - See our latest arrivals here, (203) 439 - 7784 I read your article and am very confused. Actually, ARMaglock is absolutely legal to use on your ar15 in the state of Cali. I have two featureless rifles using Thordsten stocks, but I left the Bullet Buttons in. Does that mean having a maglock and the other features you still have to register it? Thanks in advance for any help! I also seem to remember a lower receiver made by Olympus that had a fixed magazine. Will give the Resurgent Arms Grip a try. Or recommend a place to look? Hi Jason, thanks so much for your comment and insight into New Zealand firearms licenses. Very standard A2 buttstock for a more retro look and with storage compartments. Lastly, the length of pull is increased slightly because of the grip. 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