The 150 gr. Nope. Mel Forbes chose the 284 for his showcase, 5-pound M20 sheep rifle. The 63.9 grains of H1000 gave me what I was looking for with both accuracy and velocity. You should see 3100 in a 26" with rl26. Product Manufacturer: . Mag. EDUCATION 101. Other notable powders to look at are Reloader 22 and Hodgdon H4831SC. If you throat for the eld the 168 would be out the neck a fair bit to get to lands. If you see large temp swings and prefer a little more stable powder 3000 is still do able. All rights reserved. make ideal whitetail and mule deer takers with 140-to 160-grain bullets. A bit more internal powder volume gives the Wby. is beginning to assert its trajectory . Of course, long, heavy, high B.C. May be worth giving him a call. COOL STUFF : 25 ACP 32 ACP 327 Magnum 380 ACP 9mm Luger 357 Magnum 357 SIG 38 Special 38 Super 40 S&W 10mm Auto: 41 Magnum 44 Magnum 44 Special 45 ACP 45 GAP 45 Colt 454 Casull 460 Magnum 480 Ruger 50 AE 500 Magnum: 223 Remington [4]. A WSM will be limited more than a SAUM but would still be capable of more velocity than a SAUM with it's bigger case. Mag. at the muzzle. I believe it is a better version of a 280 AI in the rifles that I'm using. The 7mm SAUM is a fun cartridge to load develop because of the variety of bullet designs and powders which will perform with each class of bullets. The toroidal (donut shaped) bolt lug design ensures that both lugs consis- tently engage the receiver when the bolt is closed. Figure about 3,300 fps with both pushing 150-grain bullets. It will NOT work in most clones! Mag. I was able to push up to about 2850 max with both the 175 and 184 berger but I settled at 2800. The recoil of the 7mm PRC produces 27.7 ft-lbs of energy at a recoil velocity of 14.1 fps. Action is a medium lone peak fuzion ti. Powered by UBB.threads PHP Forum Software 7.7.5. It's shooting about 0.4MOA 5 shot groups at 100 yards, still need to run it out to distance and true the BC on the 195's to see what they get after being pointed. In Stock. UPC : 020892015531. "Montana seems to me to be what a small boy would think Texas is like from hearing Texans.". The next option is the .300 Norma Mag., which offers even better performance than the .300 Win. Adg brass 60.7 grains of H4831sc, fed 210m's. Make Offer. That is something a gunsmith could address. With heavier bullets I think the 7mm Rem Mag should hold an advantage. Top 6 Long-Range Competition Cartridges. In order to obtain that performance from a .30 caliber, I would need to jump into the .300 Win. While the STW burns about 80 grains of some powders to reach top speeds, the RUM burns an additional 8 or 10 grains. 180's @ 2850 on a 22" here also. It was a huge hit for Remington beginning in 1962 even though the 7mm Weatherby Magnum had been around since 1944. This was the impetus for our development of the 30-03 cartridge quickly re-modified to become the 30-06 which is basically a 7x57 Mauser lengthened and necked up for .308 bullets. Ive had friends with 162s going 3000fps from a 22 barrel pretty reliably. In regard to being close to a 7 Rem mag, I'm getting the same velocity as in my 7mag (Rem 700 24" barrel) but with 5.5 grs. I run 180 vld in the SA magazine at 3050. in a package almost as small as the .260 Rem. Forster 7mm Remington SAUM Full Length Sizing Die and Bench Rest Seater Die Set Permanent Link to Product Page. I've been looking for any 280 AI data too, there doesn't seem to be any yet. 64,000 psi (440 MPa) Remington introduced the 7mm Short Action Ultra Magnum (SAUM) cartridge in 2002 to compete with the 7mm Winchester Short Magnum cartridge. You are using an out of date browser. Release Agent for Glass Bedding Cerakote??? For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Alas, its also largely ignored in factory ammo, but handloaders can make it shine. Both of those calibers have significantly higher recoil, and the gains are only .1 mil less for the same 10 mph full value wind. and many times the 30-06, too. 7 mm (.284") bullets come in a wide variety of weights, shapes, and sizes. Straight sidewalls, 35-degree shoulder, .500 diameter body. and Wby Mag., 7 SAUM or 7 WSM. Another way to look at it is in mils, which would mean that at 1,000 yards, I have 1.3 mils of wind drift for 10 mph, or .13 mil per mile an hour. As it stands right now with a 7mm WSM the 150gr ELDX are at about 2.95" to the lands. I appreciate all the input and thoughts. JavaScript is disabled. That's pretty simple, so the SAUM's rep- utation holds true. Yeah, I was looking more in the intermediate weight range for the 7mm. Mid-size 7mm cartridges like 7x57 Mauser, 7mm-08 Rem., 284 Win., and 280 Rem. Does anyone have any recommendations for a powder to use for the 175 ELDX bullets? July 08, 2019 By Joseph von Benedikt. The constant of -3.2 from our range in hundreds of yards works pretty well from 600 to 1,300 yards. According to the load manuals, the 7mm WSM offered a bit more velocity than the 7mm SAUM. So with a 26 inch barrel you should be able to best my velocities by 50-150 ft/sec. Perfection is Achieved Not When There Is Nothing More to Add, But When There Is Nothing Left to Take Away. I've ruled out unmodified short actions, but am still deciding between short actions with extended mags and modified bolt stops, medium action or a long action. I would also recommend going with an 8 twist in case you want to try the heavy bullets in the future. Minnesota. Feb 2, 2018. Location. If there are any other cartridges you would like to see comp. It gained fame first as the Killer Bee in Cuba where Spanish troops rained destruction down on U.S. troops shooting 30-40 Krags and 45-70s. Throated close to saami spec. Winchester claims a muzzle velocity (MV) of 3,225 fps with a 140 grain bullet for their 7mm WSM cartridge; the claimed muzzle energy (ME) is . Muzzle Velocity ft/sec. Subscriber Services. Are you seeing this kind of longevity?. . Nosler started with that same 404 Jeffery fat case (some say they actually worked with the RUM case, but we wont nitpick,) but they shortened it enough to squeeze into 30-06 length actions. At 1500 yards I have a few 5 shot group which my hand would cover..I just wish Lapua would make brass for the 7mm SAUM . The brass flows to the new dimensions and can thereafter be reloaded again and again. Conditions were as follows: 28 Bartlein barrel. I'm curious here. Item : WNWEX1232. If you're not going to be carrying it very far , use a 26" to get the most out of it. UPC : 020892018969. Most Famous 7mm Rushes In and Inspires Super Magnums. The 7-30 Waters, a necked down and blown out (wall taper taken out) 30-30 case, was conceived by Ken Waters to improve the ballistics of typical tube magazine lever actions commonly chambered in 30-30. bullets are your best odds for ringing steel at extreme range. The German 7x64 Brenneke popped up in 1917. I was able to get dialed within 46 rounds of load development. These mags are rea- sonably priced and ran flawlessly with the Mausingfield/Whiskey-3 combo. One is 500 the other is 1000 yards. .4. JavaScript is disabled. I recently built one using a long action strictly because the next barrel may be a full length cartridge. These claims are valid if the short magnum cartridges are fired in 24 inch barrels, the same length as the barrels of most 7mm Rem. I get pressure signs before I get any speed. Includes box, follower, spring, and bolt stop. Not so wide that bullets (and thus recoil) become too heavy. I'm getting 2960 fps with 160 grain Accubonds in my Model Seven with a factory 22" barrel. 65.5 grains of H-1000 WLR primer. The M7 300 wears original plastic, bedded the lug and first inch or two of barrel just because. You are using an out of date browser. Also often called the 6.5mm SAUM or 6.5 GAP 4S, the SAUM stands for Short Action Ultra Magnum, and the case is similar to a 7mm SAUM which has been necked down to accept a 6.5mm (.264) bullet. TS customs put it all together, to bad its my wife's gun!! 67 grs. I basically just wanted to be able to load mid weight bullets and keep them in my BDL mag box. The 7mm SAUM fills also fills a niche in extended long range competitions (700-2100 yards) where it is a popular choice. It may not display this or other websites correctly. 24 inches with a brake is great for hunting but 26 or 27 may be better for wringing the most speed out. It was designed to maximize muzzle velocity with extremely high B.C. ELD-Match ammo I shot at FTW was rated 2,975 fps on the box. LOL. Measure 7mm land-to-land diameters and youll usually come up with .277. I'd expect 3,000 or better with 150's and the same powder and that barrel length. Using a standard short action mag box limits you in both a SAUM and WSM. The Nosler loads were developed in Remington cases with Remington primers, and chronographed in a 24 inch barrel. Rem model 7, 22" barrel, 140 grain ballistic tip, 3150 fps. Joe Kurtenbach, Executive Editor of Gun & Ammo, and John Myles from Smith & Wesson discuss features of the Equalizer 9mm micro-compact pistol and new-for-2023 M&P 5.7. B-I've worked with a 7 WSM a bit and based off of what I learned from that I'd say a 160 would be top end in the 2850-2900 range (in the Saum) give or take a tish bit. Hunters often use the 7mm Magnum to kill impala, antelope, . The 7 SAUM can drive a 140-grain bullet at a . Buddy just got a 7SAUM made with a 24" barrel and seems to get 2980 with a 180 grain Berger and RL 26. I'm wanting to build a short barreled 7 SAUM for my next custom and working on sorting out the components. One of the main benefits of the 7mm is the wide variety of heavy bullets with high BCs and low form factors, both desirable for efficient trajectories. was proprietary. As far as long distance muscle the 7mm Rem Mag will come out on top. Elk, moose, kudu and similar large deer and antelope species are best addressed with 160-through 180-grain .284s. 00. Factory ammo is scarce and limited, so both these are at their best handloaded. with a max load of H-1000 and 160's. Just got mine back from WTO with a 28" Bartelin 7 twist chambered for 183 sierra matchkings. I'm thinking the 22" variety has a bit of appeal. . My long term plan is to have a second rifle built on a LA that is probably chambered in a 30 to push 190gr+ bullets. I have two ranges within 40 minutes either direction with F class it makes it easy. I'm just looking for a starting point for a ladder test at 600 yards. Its so like the 280 Rem. I need to make a little trip.. All of my hunting rifles except my varmint AR have 26" or up barrels. Expect a 280 AI performance match from the SAUM, a 7mm Rem. Ballistic performance is nearly identical. I am looking for velocity as well as accuracy and hoping to . This cartridge duplicates the velocities of the .280 Remington. What kind of velocities are you guys getting with 150's and which powders are you using to get there? 28 has a slight edge in velocity across the range of usable bullets thanks to a slightly increased case capacity: . I find standard primers more accurate in this cartridge BUT I do use mag primers in hunting season and readjust the load a bit( because of the cold weather). HANDGUN BALLISTICS. Have it milled for a Wyatts box. RL-19, H4350, and IMR 4350 are all good choices. JD Thomas of High Speed Shooting Systems built the rifle on an American Rifle Company (ARC) Mausingfield ac- tion. More load development coming. The 7mm PRC does offer higher velocity figuresrunning at a higher pressurethough many feel that the 7mm Remington Magnum has plenty of velocity. FRS004418. Hodgdon reloading data for the 7mm WSM shows that the 140 grain Nosler Partition spitzer bullet can be driven to a MV of 2979 fps in front of 58.0 grains of H4350 powder. The original short-fat. In 1989 Layne Simpson decided not all hunters wanted 30-06 length actions or needed the lower price option, so he necked down the full-length magnum case for his 7mm STW, Shooting Times Westerner. He wrote a great article about it (it's on his website) and was surprised by the velocity he got. The sample Hornady 180-gr. was tougher. Energy. First time ever shooting anything beyond 1k. 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A Mauser positive feed and extraction claw and a Springfield '03-style ejector make the Mausingfield as reliable as they come. The cartridge delivers impressive velocities, with a muzzle velocity of around 3,200 fps for a 160-grain bullet. I must be looking at the wrong powders, the Hodgdon website didn't show any that would get 3100 with 150s. and exactly the same claim is made for the 7mm WSM. I need to retest again when I have more favorable wind conditions but that load looks promising, I love this thread, Rechambering from 7RM to 7Saum and I can't believe all the pet loads here. Of course, it didnt hurt that she parked the 140-grain Swift A-Frame high on the shoulder. 7 SAUM in a short action Bighorn TL-3, 30" barrel, 7 twist. 338weatherby New Member. What did you do as far as bedding? . The Mausingfield uses an extractor collar that is a solid ring design instead of a flexible collar. 2.948 thats my bad. I was already on the fence with a new middle-ground caliber, and shortly thereafter I ordered a barrel and hit the books for some research. What most still don't understand is a given bullet combo most often has a velocity node window it likes to shoot at. This one skips the belted case and goes right to the extra fat 404 Jeffery case for its voluminous powder vault. Matching or slightly exceeding the -08 is Winchesters 1963 quasi-short-action 284 Winchester, a rebated rim case way ahead of its time. I'm looking at one real hard with a 22" barrel but also found one with a 24" barrel. Moa 5 shot group is awesome, I'm building the Saum for 1000 yard F class, And deer hunting, Trueing up a Stiller Predator for the job, are you shooting F class? Upland High Velocity loads feature Federal Premium copper-plated lead shot and the best components for the most consistent, deadly patterns possible for pheasants . Thx. It works with Wyatts SAAMI length box. 7 WSM +P I believe with an 18 barrel. I cut straight to the chase and sprung for Norma brass, which proved to be an excellent decision. with 150's. Use enough gun? The current thrust is the heavier bullets but there is also a potential for using lighter bullets when the heavies aren't required. With a 160 grain bullet the Winchester figures are 2990 fps and 3176 ft. lbs. Youll find the most variety of factory loads in the Rem. Shoots fantastic but too long for my SA Defiance. 3.070 coal. . And if the match you're shooting requires a fair amount of multiple target engagements, managing the recoil of the SAUM can be work and may not be the ideal choice, especially in unconventional shooting positions. Spectacular performance out to 450 yards on sheep, mountain goats, whitetails, elk and more. Caleb Giddings, Marketing Manager at Taurus, introduces the all-new TaurusTX 22 Compact. I just had my gunsmith chamber it for the 180s when he chambered the barrel. Not so narrow that they become ineffective for terminating big game. This adds about 100 fps to the 7mm Rem Mag. I chose to run Berger 180-grain VLDs as the do-it-all competition/hunting bullet. Make Offer. Action is a medium lone peak fuzion ti. The ARC Mausingfield is a work of art, blending the best features of three actions into one. notice that the 7mm PRCas a modern update to the 7mm Rem. I don't like to jam VLDs under any circumstance, and this chamber ended up shooting them extraordinarily well at .045-inch jump. Secure Online Ordering (No Reviews) Free Shipping! Running some numbers, I can identify that if I take my range to the target in hundreds of yards and use a wind speed constant of 8 mph (full value), my mil holds line up pretty well with the range in hundreds of yards. This is with Norma brass and loaded long. You should just do a 6.5 mm short mag if you are running the 140-150. If youre confident shooting a bit farther than 300 yards, step up to the 280 AI, 7mm Rem Mag. But ammo is hard to find in much variety. Like Winchester in 63, Remington made the mistake of betting its new 28-caliber version of the 30-06 on an autoloading rifle. Barrel life is always a concern with maximum velocity, so-called overbore cartridges. They should reach 3,000 to 3,100 fps with 175-grain, maybe a touch more with 28 barrels. Factory rifles and loads are becoming more common each year. With the STW I imagined the 7mms had reached the top of their ballistic mountain, but Remington proved me wrong in 2001 when it booted its 7mm Remington Ultra Magnum into the fray. I noticed a lot of you guys' loads are with standard LR primers. We can use a simpler method to get fast and accurate wind holds. Notice that some 7mms are named 28 or 280 or 284. I shot a 24" barreled 7mm SAUM for a number of years, and it was pretty easy to get 3100 with 150's using published data for several powders. I was trying not to bump to a DBM which would get me to 2.955". Riding right with the 7 Rem Mag and AI are the 7mm Remington SAUM (Short Action Ultra Mag) and Winchester WSM (Winchester Short Magnum,) two short-fat cartridges that havent done well in the market, but can do anything you need in the field. The difference in velocity between the 7mm SAUM cartridge and . I have a 24" barrel on my 6.5WSM. Tipsy Tuesday: Elk Film, Gear, News, & More. 7mm Remington: SP: 160: 2961: 2887 . Guys with the 6.5 Saum are claiming 2500 rounds/barrel using H1000. parent, capable of slightly better long-range ballistics with same weight bullets. These will vary rifle to rifle depending on ammo maker, chamber and bore dimensions, barrel length, temperature, altitude, etc. Bullet mass/type. for their 7mm SAUM with a 140 grain bullet. Remington and Winchester went to short, fat, unbelted cases for their latest 7mm magnums, the 7mm Remington Short Action Ultra Magnum and the Winchester Short Magnum. 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